Pay-to-Win is Becoming a Problem

VoxelBreaker_ Sep 23, 2024 5:16 PM 420
VoxelBreaker_
VoxelBreaker_
Majestic Heroic Legendary Epic

Hello Everyone,

I joined this server about a year ago, and when I started playing the only things you could buy on the arch.lol store were ranks. Ranks were simple: they gave you simple perks (like personal vaults, more land claims, and more homes) that made things more convenient, but overall everyone was still on the same playing field. Next tags were added - another purely cosmetic thing that gave no unfair perks. However, soon after the release of tags, bundles (such as the Freedom Bundle and the Back to School Bundle) started to be introduced. I made a post similar to this one when those were released, because I felt that having sharpness VI and protection VII was unfair, as those enchantments could not be obtained in any way other than paying money. The most recent bundles (the Cloud Bundle, Grass Bundle, Heroic Lootbox, and the Champion Lootbox) have furthered my concern for the future of ArchMC, as well as many other peoples'.

First, let's talk about the Cloud Bundle. The Cloud Bundle contains 5 items: the Cloud Splitter (sword), the Cloud Pet, the Cloudy Boots, Rage VI (enchantment), and Anti-Gravity III (enchantment). The sword has sharpness VI and the boots have protection VII, similar to items in other bundles. I do think that these are slightly unfair, but they are not the focus of this post. The cloud pet lets you literally fly, but overall it doesn't give you too much of a competitive advantage. The next enchantment is Anti-Gravity III. This book has a 96% chance of applying and a 4% chance to destroy itself and what it is put on, and it give infinite jump boost V. This isn't that overpowered at the moment, but if ArchMC ever updates to 1.21, it will be OP in combination with a mace. Now, for the best and worst item of the bundle. Best because of how good it is, and worst because of how unfair it is. The Rage VI book gives players a x1.1 damage multiplayer PER combo they hit, which is just completely overpowered. With Rage VI on a Cloud Splitter, you can easily 3-shot a full prot-IV netherite gset, and it only takes 5 shots if they have egapped. This is just unfair, and give players with it a huge advantage.

The next bundle released was the Grass Bundle. Honestly, not many people have sold books from it on the auction house so I do not know what everything does. It mostly contains additional custom enchantments that, like Rage VI, are overpowered. The same is true for the Champion Lootbox, which contains more custom enchantments, this time for armor.

The bundle I have the main problem with is the Heroic Lootbox. This bundle gives the player four enchantment books, all of which build upon the enchantments from the previous bundles. The books in this bundle, when combined together onto a cloud splitter, allow you to 1-shot a full Netherite gset. You can do upwards of 256 damage - without any potions.. To put that in perspective, with strength II, you can one shot a warden - with plenty of room to spare. This makes PvP unenjoyable, both for players without the OP items and players with them, because it requires absolutely zero skill. 

In addition, all of these enchantment books have a certain chance of applying to a sword, and a certain chance of breaking it. The items from these bundles would be a lot less overpowered if there was not another item for sale: the white scroll. This item makes it so the item you are applying it to will not break because of a failed enchantment book. This means that instead of settling for one or two custom enchants on a sword, people can add as many as they want, because they will never lose the whole sword.

The final problem I have with this is the silence enchantment. This enchantment basically just nerfs the other custom enchantments, so the only way to not die in one hit is to pay even more money.

DarthKyro once said that Badministrator wanted no swords above sharpness VI on the server, but really, there might as well be sharpness X - it would still do less damage than a maxed sword with all of the custom enchantments.

Thanks for listening,

VoxelBreaker_

Sep 23, 2024 5:16 PM
GolemDaWanderer
GolemDaWanderer
Majestic Mythic Legendary

Definitely agree with you. However, I think that Minecraft servers are BOUND to have p2w. Arch's p2w is pretty balanced in terms of cost though, just compare ArchMC with other servers (for example PikaNetwork), you'll find that Arch sells OP items for a lower price than on Pika. (I am a patriot for ArchMC (don't take my word for it (I love this server (ty Badmin/Ilost)))).

Thanks,

GolemDaWanderer

Sep 23, 2024 6:16 PM
MacDonald
MacDonald
Majestic Epic

No (to voxel)

Sep 23, 2024 6:41 PM
VoxelBreaker_
VoxelBreaker_
Majestic Heroic Legendary Epic

GolemDaWanderer,

I agree that most servers have p2w, and that ArchMC's is a pretty low cost compared to other servers. However, ArchMC is different from most servers. Its playerbase is primarily Eaglercraft and cracked Java players, and those types of players have not bought Minecraft for a reason: they either cannot afford it or don't have the means to purchase it. This makes it very unfair for those players who joined Arch specifically to avoid paying, and also makes it harder for new players to start out. Also, in terms of PvP, the new bundles are very p2w - you can literally 1-shot a full neth get with a maxed sword.

Thanks for listening,

VoxelBreaker_

Sep 23, 2024 7:22 PM
Himself
Himself
Majestic

Ily voxel (no homo) (with as much respect possible)

Sep 23, 2024 8:23 PM
Fuelage
Fuelage
Majestic Epic

They don't run the server as a charity. Just like any business, they want to make good money. But yeah things are becoming kind of out hand. Maybe in time, more and more people will have OP stuff so it will somewhat even out.

Sep 23, 2024 11:17 PM
_IceCube_
_IceCube_
Majestic

I agree with VoxelBreaker_. This server is using unfair advantages to make money, + Destroy Rates on custom enchanted books are… well… wasting your money.

Sep 24, 2024 7:35 PM
Axil
Axil
Epic

this kid named MasterChef is making deals with Monica where if he buys 3 of smthing MasterChef gets enchants early, maxed out gsets, etcs.

Monica is doing this since he gets a cut of the money.

this server is genuinely becoming p2w

Sep 24, 2024 7:54 PM
rahatisalosser_
rahatisalosser_
Mythic Epic

Tags came after the B2S and Freedom Bundle. And the server hoster Arch uses has to be getting better and more higher RAM usage due to the amount of players on, which is very costly. Running such a massive server isin't free.

Oct 13, 2024 1:07 PM
html2
html2
Tribute

Running such a big server “isin't” free, yes I agree with you to such an extent, however, I do believe that a better alternative can be achieved. If, for example, we made items such as custom enchants purchaseable through in store credits or to be bought with in-game money(I.e. in-game money translates to credits), it would reduce the p2w aspect to a matter of convenience. Furthermore, if we scale down on what is actually sold on the server shop to the extent wherein a huge competitive advantage isn't conceived, that would overall make it more fair. Not saying this is a good solution, this is my best idea of a compromise though

Oct 15, 2024 6:42 PM

egg

Dec 2, 2024 9:48 AM
You need to be signed in to reply.